Re: Grids & schizophrenics

Mancuso, James C. (mancusoj@capital.net)
Sun, 22 Nov 1998 21:48:56 -0500

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Greetings:
There appeared among the recent posts a series of questions about
"schizophrenics."

I wonder if, as psychologists who work from constructivist principles, we
might do better by coming up with a more useful way of designating the
troublesome people whom those who work from biological/disease principles have
labled schizophrenic.
Of course, we could continue to use the term schizophrenic if we can manage
to work out a constructivist construction by which to construe those
troublesome people, and then we would reference that construction with the term
schizophrenic.
I am not sure that that ploy would work very well, since a continued use of
the term would serve to prompt the "unschooled" to build the standard
biological/disease construction in order to construe the events to which we are
referring.
I think that we might better come up with another term, such as troublesome
deviant construers, or some such.
Perhaps a change in terms would also serve to prompt constructivists to
insist that their constructions of those troublesome construers has as much
utility as does the biological/disease narrative.

Certainly, the medical/disease narrative hasn't been very useful! When we
(Mancuso and Sarbin) published our book, Schizophrenia: Medical diagnosis or
moral verdict, in 1980, we were forced to conclude that the medical/disease
narrative simply does not make a "good story."
My continued review of the available literature also forces me to believe
that the story has not improved in the last 18 years!!!

Shall we vote on a new term? Shall we vote on the utility of a
constructivist construction of troublesome deviant construers? After all, the
validity of the "diagnosis" is determined by consensus and a vote.... Can't we
take a vote of our network colleagues?

Jim Mancuso

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James C. Mancuso        Dept. of Psychology
15 Oakwood Place        University at Albany
Delmar, NY 12054        1400 Washington Ave.
Tel: (518)439-4416      Albany, NY 12222
               Mailto:mancusoj@capital.net
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Greetings:
    There appeared among the recent posts a series of questions about "schizophrenics."

    I wonder if, as psychologists who work from constructivist principles, we might do better by coming up with a more useful way of designating the troublesome people whom those who work from biological/disease principles  have labled schizophrenic.
    Of course, we could continue to use the term schizophrenic if we can manage to work out a constructivist construction by which to construe those troublesome people, and then we would reference that construction with the term schizophrenic.
    I am not sure that that ploy would work very well, since a continued use of the term would serve to prompt the "unschooled" to build the standard biological/disease construction in order to construe the events to which we are referring.
    I think that we might better come up with another term, such as troublesome deviant construers, or some such.
    Perhaps a change in terms would also serve to prompt constructivists to insist that their constructions of those troublesome construers has as much utility as does the biological/disease narrative.

    Certainly, the medical/disease narrative hasn't been very useful!  When we (Mancuso and Sarbin) published our book,  Schizophrenia: Medical diagnosis or moral verdict, in 1980, we were forced to conclude that the medical/disease narrative simply does not make a "good story."
    My continued review of the available literature also forces me to believe that the story has not improved in the last 18 years!!!

    Shall we vote on a new term?  Shall we vote on the utility of a constructivist construction of troublesome deviant construers?  After all, the validity of the "diagnosis" is determined by consensus and a vote....  Can't we take a vote of our network colleagues?

                                                            Jim Mancuso
 

--
James C. Mancuso        Dept. of Psychology
15 Oakwood Place        University at Albany
Delmar, NY 12054        1400 Washington Ave.
Tel: (518)439-4416      Albany, NY 12222
               Mailto:mancusoj@capital.net
           http://www.capital.net/~mancusoj
A website dedicated to a personal view of Per-
sonal Construct Psychology
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