Re: NeXT client

Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@www3.cern.ch>
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 93 17:02:33 +0200
From: Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@www3.cern.ch>
Message-id: <9306211502.AA03831@www3.cern.ch>
To: Mark Leggott <mleggott@sandnc.stfx.ca>
Subject: Re: NeXT client
Cc: www-talk@nxoc01.cern.ch
Reply-To: timbl@nxoc01.cern.ch


Ok,  I have made a more recent but very buggy app avaialble.
It can't edit -- try and it will destroy your files!
  But you can browse. No embedded graphics unfortunately.

Your development proposal sounds great..... if you are in a position  
to enhance the NeXT editor, then we could come to an arrangement...

Here is the corrent README from ftp://info.cern.ch/

	THE EDITOR

WorldWideWeb_0.16.tar.Z is the only wysiwyg hypertext editor for the
NeXT.  It has limitations and bugs -- it can't access Gopher, FTP  
sites,
etc.  But it is a hypertext editor!

Note this app is compiled for NextStep 3.0 and won't work with 2.1.
There is no way round this; don't ask!  (The Project file is
converted by the ProjectBuilder to a version 3 project file
when you first compile for version 3.  The version 3 project
file won't work with 2.0 (Interface builder and project builder
shared a file and an app in 2.x), and so there is no going back!
The 3.x app won't work under 2.x as it needs 3.x shared libaries.)


	THE BROWSER

The file labelled 1.0 is a pre-alpha browser which uses the libwww
library, so you can get multimedia files etc etc.  Does doc
format conversion, etc.  


THE EDITOR DOES NOT WORK.  NOT SUPPORTED....
Only for the curious.  This DOES handle Gopher, FTP, etc.

Sorry they have the same icon now ... can be very confusing
if you use both.

timbl


Begin forwarded message:

From: Mark Leggott <mleggott@sandnc.stfx.ca>
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 93 14:35:54 -0400
To: www-talk@nxoc01.cern.ch
Subject: NeXT client

Sorry if I am covering ground covered elsewhere (FAQ's), but I  
thought this might be an appropriate forum for my questions.

I am investigating the possibility of using WWW as the central app  
for our proposed electronic library system (Xel - Xavier electronic  
library).  Having come here recently (2 months ago) from a  
CD-ROM/Hypertext company, WWW appeals to me for a number of reasons.   
I have also worked with various _SGML_, or _SGML-like_ engines (OWL  
Guide, CDAuthor Hypertext, KRS, PLS, Hyperwriter, WorldView, IDEAS,  
Mark-It, etc) and would like to build on that.

The library has four NeXT machines, which will form the seed of the  
system, and they will be the platform where capabilities of the Web  
are first demonstrated (I hope).  I would like to prepare a demo of a  
home page providing access to regional resources (ie. telnet'ing to  
other library catalogues, ftp sites, etc) sometime in the next few  
weeks. 


I realize the latest version (0.16) of the NeXT Hypermedia  
Browser/Editor does not support telnet, gopher, etc., but I would  
like to use the NeXT for these early demos if possible.  Besides, I  
am new to NeXT, love it, and would like to use it for document  
creation/development. Once I get into the development environment in  
more detail I would be interested in helping in any way I can with  
the NeXT WWW app.

- Does anybody have a NeXT browser that supports these functions, or  
is there a way to telnet from the current version in some way? 


- If not, I have recently loaded MouseX for X11R5 - does anybody have  
any experience with Viola or other X11 apps using this version?   
Should I obtain a different X app for NeXT that has been proven with  
some of these? 


- I have also recently loaded the Cello app, but would like to stay  
away from DOS/Windows if possible for now.

I appreciate any info you may be able to provide, and am looking  
forward to working with WWW and the Web development community.

Thanks

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Angus L. MacDonald Library, St. Francis Xavier University
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