Re: netscapism quote

Erik Naggum (erik@naggum.no)
Mon, 26 Jun 95 08:38:44 EDT

[Daniel Glazman]

| Wherever you post, you post some day something unpleasant. And
| occasionnally VERY unpleasant.

it is a little hard to see what this means. are you saying that wherever I
post, there will at one time or another be an unpleasant article from me,
or are you saying that I only post unpleasant articles? I don't know about
the former. most of fora in which I write are not subjected to people who
do things I find offensive. in this particular case, it was offensive to
both Dan _and_ me, as it turned out. further, I don't know how _you_ know
about the former. we don't frequent the same mailing lists or newsgroups
very often. in fact, in my complete mail archive, I have only 10 messages
to you or from you over the past 2.5 years. this indicates a rather low
rate of interaction. you seem to have a hard time just accepting that some
people may care very much about things you don't care about at all. here's
why I react to people who steal my stuff: I give things away freely to a
lot of people, including code, ideas, articles, etc. the _only_ thing I
ask in return is that those who use my material give me credit for it. I
don't mind that work I do is used by companies who go on to make huge
profits from my ideas. I _do_ mind when they try to make it appear as if
it wasn't my idea, worse when they try to make it appear as if I took it
from them. this has happened several times, and I have gradually learned
that giving things away should be reserved to those of high moral stature.
not everybody can be given things, because they don't know how not to abuse
it. I have trusted too many people and have been betrayed too often to
_not_ react harshly when it happens. (incidentally, I have heard the same
story and reaction from several other people who have done a lot of good
for the net.community, including Richard Stallman.) I mistook Dan's quote
as an instance of same. Dan, my apologies for not asking if this was
really your article -- it certainly was way outside what I would expect
from you.

however, Daniel, your "I was not expecting something else from you" tends
to indicate the latter interpretation, which I find slanderous and base.
nowhere I have looked have you and I been active in the same forum in 1995.
I am really at a loss for what makes you go ballistic when you see my name,
and I find it both curious and sad, especially when you choose to share
your feelings with the world.

can I just ask you to mail me whenever you feel the urge to flame, instead
of posting? posting wastes everybody's time, and I feel a certain need to
defend myself against your attacks that I may not feel if you mail me. and
could you _please_ mail me _every_ time you find something unpleasant from
me? maybe I could see a pattern if I saw the articles that you react to so
strongly, and that way, I could also try to understand what you actually
mean by "wherever you post, you post some day something unpleasant". such
sweeping generalizations are usually based on prejudice and feelings rather
than fact, and I would like for you and me to collect some facts that may
help resolve your problem.

if you feel the need to respond, I'm absolutely certain that your advice to
get back to the issues on the mailing list would be appreciated. I only
wonder why you didn't follow your own advice. _please_ restrict your
unpleasant articles to mail. thank you.

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