Re: Standardizing new HTML features Tony Sanders <email@example.com>
Subject: Re: Standardizing new HTML features
In-Reply-To: "(Arnold Bloemer)"'s message of 28 Apr 93 07:40:00.
Organization: Berkeley Software Design, Inc.
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1993 11:41:29 -0500
From: Tony Sanders <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> From "(Arnold Bloemer)" <email@example.com>
> > From firstname.lastname@example.org Wed Apr 28 01:17:16 1993
> > ...
> > Also, I'm not certain that any multimedia data other than images needs
> > to be specifiable as inlined/included. Things like audio and MPEG can
> > simply be pointed at from an anchor (as Mosaic does) and forked to
> > external viewers or processed internally, whichever the browser
> > prefers -- and with inlined images the whole thing will be iconic
> > anyway.
> But it is much more impressive and intuitive, when you click on an
> image and it starts moving in place. Paradise Software Inc. have a demo
> which shows a hypermedia newspaper. In that demo there are two images
> which serve as anchors to two movies. When you start the movies they
> will run at the location of the images. I showed the demo to a couple
> of people and all were very impressed.
There are two parts to this, auto-inlining and inlining on selection.
There is nothing to prevent browers from inlining on selection right now,
though it would be nice if you could pass a window id to xv and not have
to build in all that code. Having browsers and external viewers cooperate
should be an easy project. Any volunteers?
I think in 10 years auto-inlining anchors (for other than iconic purposes,
which is what <A><IMG...></A> really does) will be considered the GOTO of
hypertext. Good document design should minimize them, but they are handy
when you are in deep shaving cream.
see also: http://info.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/MarkUp/Elements/A.html
It talks about REL=Embed which is pretty interesting for doing outlines.
> > I would certainly love to hear discussion about what to do with text
> > flow -- it's starting to become a popular request.
> I would like this feature also very much.
Wouldn't adding a <IMG ALIGN="flow"> hint do the job? I haven't researched
all the different ways people like to flow text around images but I think
this would solve 80% of the problem (which is that people don't want all
that empty space). I don't see anything preventing browsers from flowing
text right now.