Some HTML+ remarks

Terry Allen <>
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From: Terry Allen <>
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1993 15:06:53 PDT
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Subject: Some HTML+ remarks
This is a belated response to a few points in Dave Raggett's post  
<> of Fri, 4 Jun 93. 
Sorry to be so slow. 

>> is Terry Allen
> is Dave Raggett

>> PANEL is like a Sidebar; it floats, as FIGs may.  It seedms
>> to me that there needs to be a default anchor point (not
>> the ANCHOR element, necessarily, just an anchor) for floats,
>> such that one can say the object may be placed at that point
>> or after, but not before.
>Given that you can name most elements with the ID attribute and use 
>that as the basis for a link, it seems reasonable to use this for 
>anchoring panels, e.g.
>                <PANEL AT="p34">
>With your suggested semantics that the panel may be placed at that 
>point or after, but not before.


>> The same issue of anchor points pertains to <P MARGIN>, a
>> marginal note.  Unless these have anchors in the text to
>> which they pertain, they can be placed only by sticking them
>> right into that text.  
>My assumed semantics was that any text following after the margin 
>note definition would start at the same line as the start of the 
>margin note in the same way that DT and DD are currently treated by 
>most browsers.
>Footnotes can be handled using the EMPH tag, e.g. 
>        The UK is now considering CDMA <EMPH TAG="FOOTNOTE">
>         An abbreviation for Code Division Multiple Access - a
>         spread spectrum technique devised for the military.</EMPH>
>        for the third generation of mobile telephony.
>This approach has two benefits:
>    o   the footnote is anchored by virtue of where it is defined
>        and doesn't require an additional attribute
>    o   browsers can render the footnote text inline, e.g. in
>        brackets, or as a kind of pop-up link (dotted underlines?),
>        or at the bottom of the page if a paged imaging model
>        (rather than a scrolled model) is in use.

This is fine; I hadn't been thinking of dumb character terminals.
A minor point: there has to be some mechanism
for dealing with marginal notes that overlap:  you could have
two footnotes on the same line, or two long marginal notes
only a few lines apart.

>> I am confused by INPUT and the remark that it goes to make
>> up Forms.  Would someone please give an example of usage?
> [long and intriguing response deleted]

I liked the form example, and intend to try it out.
Keep up the good work!


Terry Allen  (
Editor, Digital Media Group
O'Reilly & Associates, Inc.
Sebastopol, Calif., 95472