Some interesting quotes

Mancuso, James C. (mancusoj@capital.net)
Sun, 07 Mar 1999 21:05:36 -0500

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Hello:
Ocassionally some of the communications on this net raise questions
about the origins of Kelly's formulations.

I have come across some material that I am writing into a piece I am
completing, as follows:
W. I. Thomas' aphorism: "If men define situations as real, they are
real in their consequences (cited in Gusfield, 1979).
{? Is that something that might have been turned into the Fundamental
postulate???}

Can Thomas's aphorism be regarded as a paraphrase of James statement
that "ideas (which themselves are but parts of our experience) become
true just in so far as they help us to get into satisfactory relations
with other parts of our experience (James, 1942/1907, 1909, emphasis
James').

Does anyone out there know the actual source of Thomas' statement.
I have seen it quoted in two different places, but neither of the people
who used the quote bothered to offer the citation. I guess that is what
happens to a statement that becomes an aphorism!!!
Best,
Jim Mancuso

There is quite a story on W. I. Thomas.... an outstanding scholar at
U. of Chicago. He did a classic work that was way ahead of its time;
with F. Znaniecki -- The Polish Peasant in Europe and America. Living in
the Buffalo, NY area at the time that I first read Kelly, and being
interested in the Polish-American community there, I read the T & Z
work, and was titillated by the ways in which the interepretaions they
offered paralleled those of Kelly.

Jim Mancuso

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    Ocassionally some of the communications on this net raise questions about the origins of Kelly's formulations.

    I have come across some material that I am writing into a piece I am completing, as follows:
 W. I.  Thomas' aphorism: "If men define situations as real, they are real in their consequences (cited in Gusfield, 1979).
 {? Is that something that might have been turned into the Fundamental postulate???}

    Can Thomas's aphorism be regarded as a paraphrase of James statement that "ideas (which themselves are but parts of our experience) become true just in so far as they help us to get into satisfactory relations with other parts of our experience (James, 1942/1907, 1909, emphasis James').

    Does anyone out there know the actual source of Thomas' statement.  I have seen it quoted in two different places, but neither of the people who used the quote bothered to offer the citation.  I guess that is what happens to a statement that becomes an aphorism!!!
                                            Best,
                                                    Jim Mancuso

    There is quite a story on W. I. Thomas.... an outstanding scholar at U. of Chicago.  He did a classic work that was way ahead of its time; with F. Znaniecki -- The Polish Peasant in Europe and America. Living in the Buffalo, NY area at the time that I first read Kelly, and being interested in the Polish-American community there, I read the T & Z work, and was titillated by the ways in which the interepretaions they offered paralleled those of Kelly.

                                                Jim Mancuso
--
James C. Mancuso        Dept. of Psychology
15 Oakwood Place        University at Albany
Delmar, NY 12054        1400 Washington Ave.
Tel: (518)439-4416      Albany, NY 12222
           Mailto:mancusoj@capital.net
 http://www.capital.net/~soialban/index.html
A website dedicated to information on Italian-
           American history and heritage.
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