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X-Delivered: at request of secret on dxcern.cern.ch Via: uk.ac.leeds.cbl; Wed, 6 Oct 1993 12:36:36 +0100 From: N F Drakos <nikos@cbl.leeds.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 93 12:36:31 BST Message-id: <29351.9310061136@cbl.leeds.ac.uk> To: www-talk <www-talk@nxoc01.cern.ch> Subject: Re: Math markups.

Emanuel Knill writes: > >Hi everyone, > >You probably have seen the recent discussion on markups for >math on comp.infosystems.www. Unfortunately I could not >so far determine who is actually working on implementing >mathematical expressions. There are at least five >mathematicians here who would take immediate advantage >of such features if they were available. Yes, >I have seen latex2html, and tried converting some of my >papers. Though I think it is great to >have build this tool, the results were not satisfactory for >what I tried. The most >obvious problem was symbol alignment. What is the symbol alignment problem? If you are referring to equation images not being aligned correctly within a piece of text that flows around them then this can be fixed with the new version of mosaic (XMosaic 2.0 prerelease 4) and the next release of latex2html (or the patch to v0.3.1 in http://cbl.leeds.ac.uk/nikos/tex2html/previous-versions/patch0.3.1-to-0.3.3.txt) If you want to align several equations then why not use latex multiline formulas (eqnarray). Alternatively you can enclose whatever equation+text arrangement whose exact presentation style you want to preserve in an environment that would force the generation of an inlined image for it. What other problems are there? >I did notice that html+ will include embedded elements, >and in fact one of the examples referres to embedded TeX. >My understanding is that we could have an external program >which can convert such embedded formulas to an image >and provide this to the browser for inclusion. Is this correct? >If so, is anyone working on providing such programs? >As I see it, the only disadvantage of such an approach >is that one cannot take advantage of the macro definition >capabilities of TeX. Finally, >it seems that concepts such as "theorems", >"lemmas", "examples" etc. should be added to the paragraph >roles? Apart from the macro capabilities of TeX, and the inclusion of style files there other problems resulting from the fact that in many cases single equations cannot be treated in isolation. For example automatic equation numbering, cross references using symbolic equation labels, automatic generation of theorem/subtheorem/axiom/lemma numbers cannot be addressed by embedding TeX in HTML unless parts of the TeX engine are replicated, or as Marc points out, unless TeX becomes more modular so that it can be used with other packages. For the time being these issues can only be addressed if the equations and the text around them are processed together and preferably off-line because of potential overheads. Nikos Drakos Computer Based Learning Unit University of Leeds email: nikos@cbl.leeds.ac.uk WWW : http://cbl.leeds.ac.uk/nikos/personal.html