On a serious note, I thought that both Devi and j.Maxwell Legg made some
valid, creative and interesting points. The problem I have with jML's
postings is that I'm never entirely sure how to read them. e.g. the bottom
of this fwd. message.
No doubt about the commitment - but the recent interchange does illustrate
the boundaries of PCP as a system of interpersonal communication,
understanding and meaning exercised through the WWW!
Barry Cooper.
-----Original Message-----
From: j.Maxwell Legg <income@ihug.co.nz>
To: pcp@mailbase.ac.uk <pcp@mailbase.ac.uk>
Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: Boundaries of PCP
>Devi Jankowicz wrote:
>>
>> I responded to what, in effect, was a troll.
>
>In your rhetoric, using the term "troll" is meant to be a put down, eh? I
think
>you've been suffering from too much Internet poisoning.
>
>>
>> As for the rest of your current posting; sure,
>>
>> >In the sense that they operate in conspiracy capitalism
>> >and criminality are similar.
>>
>> "to the degree that" they operate in conspiracy capitalism and
>> criminality are similar.
>> But that's like saying "to the degree that they kill people, murder and
>> manslaughter are similar"
>
>You seem to agree, irrespective of motive, that as a "death" is a boundary
on
>the limits of a population so "conspiracy" is a boundary of PCP.
>
>>
>> But you've yet to make the case that capitalism, per se., operates in
>> conspiracy.
>
>Pass. (Not in here I don't.)
>
>>
>> >Capitalism uses its own laws to allow conspiracy to
>> >determine many price collusions.
>> This is to ignore anti-trust legislation, monopolies and mergers
>> legislation, oh, yes, and there is this thing called competition, not to
>> mention the effects of demand on pricing structures. But allowing those
>> into the range of convenience of your constructs of "conspiracy",
>> "collusion", "criminality" and "capitalism" would, it seems, ruin your
>> argument.
>
>Not at all. These things you mention are simply stage management; - a
placebo
>for the masses. Not that you could ever see them as such, but I liken your
>so-called competitive structures to various groups of elephantine
Scientologists
>vying with each other to see who can carve out the most credits from their
clam
>followers.
>
>For further information, in my article "Counter Capitalism", I gridded a
>comparison of the criminal similarities of both Scientology and Capitalism
and
>you can read it for yourself at URL:-
>
>http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~income/capitalism.htm
>
> Counter Capitalism
>
>A juxtaposition and geometrical psychological spoof adapted and edited from
Bob
>Penny's critique of mind control. This is a project of mine that started
out
>comparing web counters to capitalism. It has since developed into a
scientific
>study of a social theory.
>
>
> Contents
>
>THIRD ROCK FROM THE POLE
>
>I. SHARED SELF-DECEPTIONS
>II. FRIENDS TO BE COOPERATED WITH
>III. A DESTRUCTIVE SOCIETY
>IV. CAPITALIST TRAINING SELLING USER-PAYS
>VI. BUT I THOUGHT YOU CARED ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN...
>VII. CAPITALISM'S POLICE
>VIII. THE DEFEAT OF STREET SMARTS
>IX. AN EXAMPLE OF WORD GAMES: THE WORD CONTROL
>X. THE WEB OF GROUP-THINK
>XI. RESULTS
>XII. ABOUT THIS EXERCISE.
>
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